2004 Ic CE Problems, Complaints & Recalls
- Compared with other CE years
- Not enough data 3rd of 14 for complaints
- Safety recalls
- 9 recalls: check your VIN
- NHTSA crash rating
- Not rated
Owners have filed 1 complaint with NHTSA about the 2004 Ic CE. That ranks 3rd out of 14 CE model years for complaints. The most reported problem area is equipment (1 complaints, 100%). There are 9 safety recalls covering this model year. NHTSA has opened 2 defect investigations involving it.
- 1owner complaints
- 9safety recalls
- 2NHTSA investigations
- 0complaints mentioning a crash
Complaints are unverified owner reports and are not adjusted for sales volume.
Most common 2004 Ic CE problems
Complaints grouped by the part of the car owners reported, with the median mileage when the problem happened.
| Problem area | Complaints | Share | Median miles | Owners mention most | Typical repair cost |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Equipment | 1 | 100% | — | — | — |
| Seats | 1 | 100% | — | — | — |
One complaint can list several problem areas, so shares can add up to more than 100%.
2004 Ic CE recalls (9)
Tap a recall to see the problem, the risk and the fix.
Equipment:electrical
Problem: Navistar is recalling 61,316 my 2001 through 2009 ic be, ce, and fe model commercial and school buses manufactured between february 2, 2000 and june 2, 2008, equipped with an entrance door stepwell heater feature code 0048pms or 0548001 and/or a rear wall mounted heater feature code 0048tar or 0048psx. The affected heater units may fail in low speed operation causing elevated temperatures.
Risk: Elevated temperatures can result in a fire, possibly resulting in property damage, personal injury, or death.
Fix: An interim letter was mailed on february 20, 2009, to communicate the defect and recommend action to mitigate the risk until the final remedy and customer notification could be provided at a later date. The manufacture filed an amended defect report dated march 27, 2009 advising that a final remedy has been developed and parts are being manufactured. The safety recall began on june 2, 2009. Owners may contact navistar toll-free at 1-800-448-7825.
Engine and engine cooling
Problem: Navistar is recalling 24,975 my 2003 through 2008 ic be, ce, hc, and re school and commercial buses and 2002 through 2008 international 3200 and 3300 model buses manufactured between september 21, 2001 through december 14, 2007, equipped with international vt365 engines. These vehicles may exhibit engine hard start, no start, or stall conditions due to possibly damaged terminals in the fuse holder connector of the injector drive module (idm) clean battery power circuits. The terminals may have been damaged during electrical continuity testing in the manufacturing process.
Risk: These conditions could result in a vehicle crash, possibly resulting in personal injury.
Fix: Navistar will notify owners and replace the idm fuse holder free of charge. The recall began on october 3, 2008. Owners can contact navistar toll-free at 1-800-448-7825.
Electrical system
Problem: Navistar is recalling 51,588 heavy trucks, commercial buses and school buses manufactured between november 21, 2000 and may 21, 2008, equipped with one or more remote power modules. The potting material that encapsulates the circuit board of the vehicle's remote power module may not sufficiently seal the circuit board from water and contamination intrusion. If the encapsulation is compromised, water and contaminants may cause an internal electrical short, possibly resulting in a fire.
Risk: A fire could cause personal injury or death.
Fix: Navistar will notify owners and repair the vehicles free of charge. The recall began on july 10, 2008. Owners may contact navistar at 1-280-461-1890.
Parking brake
Problem: Certain my 2004 through 2007 ce and be school buses and 1300 and 3300 model vehicle chassis manufactured by ic corporation between march 17, 2004, and may 15, 2006. The park brake system may activate while the vehicle is under normal operation. Although the vehicle is brought to a stop, the activation may occur without warning or input from the driver and may strand the vehicle in an active lane. The spring applied, hydraulic release (sahr) park brake actuator could experience a hydraulic lock condition that will not allow the park brake to apply.
Risk: Should the park brake activate and strand the vehicle, it may contribute to a vehicle crash, possibly resulting in property damage, personal injury, or death. Should the park brake not apply, a vehicle roll away can occur and may result in a crash, possibly resulting in property damage, personal injury, or death.
Fix: Dealers will repair the buses free of charge. The recall began july 7, 2006. Owners may contact ic corporation at 800-322-2884 or owners may contact international at 1-800-448-7825.
Child seat:latch strap
Problem: Certain 2004-2006 my ic corporation ce, fe, and re school buses manufactured from may 12, 2003, through march 2, 2005, equipped with child restraint anchorage systems. The diameter latch attachment bars exceed the diameter requirements of federal motor vehicle safety standard no. 225, child restraint anchorage systems, which may make it difficult to use with future car seat attachments. In addition, some of the latch attachments are located too far forward of the seat back.
Risk: Not attaching the child seat properly may result in personal injury or death in the event of a vehicle crash. Also, the inappropriate placement of the brackets may result in personal injury to a passenger not seated in a car seat.
Fix: Ic corporation will notify its customers and (1) the brackets will be removed and replaced by a special belt system and (2) the seat frame will be replaced by a frame with a new seat attachment bracket. These repairs will be performed free of charge. The recall began on august 19, 2005. Owners may contact international at 260-461-1924.
Engine and engine cooling
Problem: Certain 2003-2006 my ic ce, fe, and re school buses and re commercial buses manufactured between february 4, 2003, and march 1, 2005, and equipped with webasto coolant heaters. The stainless steel walls of the burner tubes incorporated into webasto coolant heaters may be made of a material that is not within specification and may fail prematurely.
Risk: Should the burner tube fail, the coolant heater could overheat, possibly resulting in a fire.
Fix: Ic will notify its owners and replace the burner tubes free of charge. The recall began on april 20, 2005. Owners may contact international at 260-461-1924.
Seats
Problem: Certain 1998, 2000-2005 my ce, fe, and re school buses built with one or more ce white 30-inch child restraint seats and manufactured between march 25, 1998 and august 24, 2004. The seat cushion retention may not retain the seat in all circumstances.
Risk: In the event of a sudden stop, the seat cushion may tip forward and may become unattached causing the passenger to slide off the seat and/or be trapped by the seat cushion. This action could possibly result in personal injury or death.
Fix: Ic corp will notify its customers and will repair the cushion by adding a clip to the cushion tying it to the seat frame. The recall began on october 5, 2004. Owners who take their vehicles to an authorized dealer on an agreed upon service date and do not receive the free remedy within a reasonable time should contact ic compliance department at 1-800-843-5615.
Equipment adaptive/mobility
Problem: Certain my 2001-2005 amtran/ic corporation ce, fe, and re school buses equipped with sure-lok wheelchair tie-down securement assemblies p/n 8625-13. The sprocket teeth of the retractor assembly may be out of alignment causing the load pawl not to fully seat in the sprocket teeth.
Risk: In the event of a vehicle crash, the wheelchair may not be adequately secured possibly resulting in injuries.
Fix: Sure-lok will notify ic's customers and repair the buses on ic's behalf at no cost to the customer. The recall began august 16, 2004. Owners who take their vehicles to an authorized dealer on an agreed upon service date and do not receive the free remedy within a reasonable time should contact sure-lok at 1-908-231-1804.
Equipment
Problem: On certain "special needs" school buses equipped with sur-loc "l" wheelchair tracks, the lift mounting bolts could corrode if moisture occurs in the treated plywood floor.
Risk: This could reduce the function of the track or the strength of the lift mounting bolts resulting in personal injury to the occupants.
Fix: Dealers will replace the sur-loc "l" tracks with protected tracks and mounting hardware. Also, lift floor-mounting bolts will be replaced. Owner notification is expected to begin march 19, 2004. Owners who take their vehicles to an authorized dealer on an agreed upon service date and do not receive the free remedy within a reasonable time should contact ic at 1-800-843-5615.
To see whether a specific car still has an open recall, enter its VIN on NHTSA's official recall lookup. You can also decode a VIN here.
NHTSA defect investigations
- Starter wire abrades parking cable (PE09053) — opened Nov 9, 2009, closed Feb 3, 2010, led to recall 10V010000.
- School bus stalling (PE08034) — opened May 9, 2008, closed Aug 28, 2008, led to recall 08V353000.
Recent owner reports
Short excerpts of the latest complaints filed with NHTSA, with personal details removed. Full reports can be searched on NHTSA.gov.
This deals with what appears to be an intentional ongoing fraud against nhtsa and owners of some 9,000 international school buses sold throughout the u.s. Between 8/2002 and 8/2003. As of march 2014 it appears that many of the 9000 buses (standard and handicapped) involved in this apparent fraud…
Other Ic CE years
| Year | Complaints | Recalls |
|---|---|---|
| 2014 CE | 0 | 2 |
| 2013 CE | 0 | 2 |
| 2012 CE | 0 | 1 |
| 2011 CE | 0 | 2 |
| 2010 CE | 0 | 2 |
| 2009 CE | 0 | 2 |
| 2008 CE | 0 | 2 |
| 2007 CE | 0 | 2 |
| 2006 CE | 11 | 14 |
| 2005 CE | 5 | 15 |
| 2004 | 1 | 9 |
| 2003 CE | 0 | 6 |
| 2002 CE | 0 | 2 |
| 2001 CE | 0 | 1 |
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Frequently asked questions
What are the most common problems with the 2004 Ic CE?
Owners most often report equipment, seats problems. The top one, equipment, accounts for 1 complaint.
Was there a recall on the 2004 Ic CE?
Yes, 9 safety recalls. Enter your VIN at NHTSA.gov to check whether the repairs were done on your car.
Was the 2004 Ic CE a good year?
Complaint data can't fully answer that, because counts aren't adjusted for sales. Compared with other CE model years, the 2004 has too little data to compare. Always get a pre-purchase inspection and check the VIN for open recalls.