2005 Ic CE Problems, Complaints & Recalls

Problem: Kingmor Supply, Inc. (Kingmor) is recalling certain model year 2005-2017 IC CE school buses manufactured September 1, 2005, to May 1, 2017, and modified to be equipped with certain model S2005, S2010, S5005, S5010, S5505, and S5510 wheelchair lifts built by the Ricon Corporation. The affected lifts are equipped with folding link arms that may have pivot holes that are too big, allowing the bearings to move out of position.

Risk: If the bearings move out of position, the stowed platform may have excessive movement resulting in failure of the platform mounting. This failure could cause the wheel chair lift platform to fall out of the vehicle when the doors are opened, increasing the risk of injury for the lift operator.

Fix: Kingmor will notify owners, and Ricon dealers will inspect the link arms for damage or for displaced bearings. The platform will be inspected for cracks. Any damaged parts will be replaced, free of charge. The recall began on December 18, 2015. Owners may contact Kingmor customer service at 1-800-782-4474, or Ricon Customer Service at 1-800-322-2884. Note: These buses and wheelchair lifts were subject to a similar recall in 2014. All vehicles that received that recall remedy are still affected by this recall as well.

Problem: Navistar is recalling certain model year 2003 through 2010 international trucks and ic commercial buses manufactured from december 4, 2001 through december 14, 2009 equipped with international vt365 engines having engine calibration pan2pvr0, pan2pvr1, or pan2pwr. The engine normally responds to a failed open accelerator position sensor circuit fault by returning the engine to low idle speed of 800 rpm and disabling the driver's ability to increase the engine speed. However if the open circuit corrects itself within 30 seconds of initiation, engine speed could suddenly increase to a high idle speed of 1200 rpm.

Risk: This increase to high idle speed may occur without warning causing a sudden and unexpected shift in vehicle position possibly resulting in property damage, personal injury, or death.

Fix: Navistar will notify owners and dealers will repair the vehicles free of charge. The safety recall began on july 1, 2010. Owners may contact navistar at 1-800-448-7825.

Problem: Navistar has notified nhtsa about a defect in certain model year 2010 and 2011 ic ce, be, and fe school buses manufactured from november 19, 2003 through february 9, 2010. The parking brake may release if the brake system electronic control unit software misinterprets input signals generated from cycling the ignition switch more than once at a specific frequency.

Risk: Release of the parking brake may cause sudden, unexpected shift in vehicle position possibly resulting in property damage, personal damage, or death.

Fix: Navistar will notify owners and will repair the buses by reprogramming the vehicle's brake system ecu free of charge. The safety recall began on april 2, 2010. Owners may contact navistar at 1-260-461-1890.

Problem: Navistar is recalling 61,316 my 2001 through 2009 ic be, ce, and fe model commercial and school buses manufactured between february 2, 2000 and june 2, 2008, equipped with an entrance door stepwell heater feature code 0048pms or 0548001 and/or a rear wall mounted heater feature code 0048tar or 0048psx. The affected heater units may fail in low speed operation causing elevated temperatures.

Risk: Elevated temperatures can result in a fire, possibly resulting in property damage, personal injury, or death.

Fix: An interim letter was mailed on february 20, 2009, to communicate the defect and recommend action to mitigate the risk until the final remedy and customer notification could be provided at a later date. The manufacture filed an amended defect report dated march 27, 2009 advising that a final remedy has been developed and parts are being manufactured. The safety recall began on june 2, 2009. Owners may contact navistar toll-free at 1-800-448-7825.

Problem: Navistar is recalling 24,975 my 2003 through 2008 ic be, ce, hc, and re school and commercial buses and 2002 through 2008 international 3200 and 3300 model buses manufactured between september 21, 2001 through december 14, 2007, equipped with international vt365 engines. These vehicles may exhibit engine hard start, no start, or stall conditions due to possibly damaged terminals in the fuse holder connector of the injector drive module (idm) clean battery power circuits. The terminals may have been damaged during electrical continuity testing in the manufacturing process.

Risk: These conditions could result in a vehicle crash, possibly resulting in personal injury.

Fix: Navistar will notify owners and replace the idm fuse holder free of charge. The recall began on october 3, 2008. Owners can contact navistar toll-free at 1-800-448-7825.

Problem: Navistar is recalling 51,588 heavy trucks, commercial buses and school buses manufactured between november 21, 2000 and may 21, 2008, equipped with one or more remote power modules. The potting material that encapsulates the circuit board of the vehicle's remote power module may not sufficiently seal the circuit board from water and contamination intrusion. If the encapsulation is compromised, water and contaminants may cause an internal electrical short, possibly resulting in a fire.

Risk: A fire could cause personal injury or death.

Fix: Navistar will notify owners and repair the vehicles free of charge. The recall began on july 10, 2008. Owners may contact navistar at 1-280-461-1890.

Problem: Certain my 2004 through 2007 ce and be school buses and 1300 and 3300 model vehicle chassis manufactured by ic corporation between march 17, 2004, and may 15, 2006. The park brake system may activate while the vehicle is under normal operation. Although the vehicle is brought to a stop, the activation may occur without warning or input from the driver and may strand the vehicle in an active lane. The spring applied, hydraulic release (sahr) park brake actuator could experience a hydraulic lock condition that will not allow the park brake to apply.

Risk: Should the park brake activate and strand the vehicle, it may contribute to a vehicle crash, possibly resulting in property damage, personal injury, or death. Should the park brake not apply, a vehicle roll away can occur and may result in a crash, possibly resulting in property damage, personal injury, or death.

Fix: Dealers will repair the buses free of charge. The recall began july 7, 2006. Owners may contact ic corporation at 800-322-2884 or owners may contact international at 1-800-448-7825.

Problem: Certain 2005-2007 ce and my 2007 be school and transit buses manufactured between february 10, 2004, and december 15, 2005. Passenger coat strings or carry on items can get caught between the door control bracket and the door control arm as the passenger exits the bus.

Risk: If the driver is unaware of the situation, the entrance door may be closed, capturing the item in the door. Death or injury could occur to the person exiting the bus.

Fix: Ic will notify its owners and repair all the buses free of charge. The recall began march 2, 2006. Customers may contact international at 800-448-7825.

Problem: Certain 2004-2006 my ic corporation ce, fe, and re school buses manufactured from may 12, 2003, through march 2, 2005, equipped with child restraint anchorage systems. The diameter latch attachment bars exceed the diameter requirements of federal motor vehicle safety standard no. 225, child restraint anchorage systems, which may make it difficult to use with future car seat attachments. In addition, some of the latch attachments are located too far forward of the seat back.

Risk: Not attaching the child seat properly may result in personal injury or death in the event of a vehicle crash. Also, the inappropriate placement of the brackets may result in personal injury to a passenger not seated in a car seat.

Fix: Ic corporation will notify its customers and (1) the brackets will be removed and replaced by a special belt system and (2) the seat frame will be replaced by a frame with a new seat attachment bracket. These repairs will be performed free of charge. The recall began on august 19, 2005. Owners may contact international at 260-461-1924.

Problem: Certain 2003-2006 my ic ce, fe, and re school buses and re commercial buses manufactured between february 4, 2003, and march 1, 2005, and equipped with webasto coolant heaters. The stainless steel walls of the burner tubes incorporated into webasto coolant heaters may be made of a material that is not within specification and may fail prematurely.

Risk: Should the burner tube fail, the coolant heater could overheat, possibly resulting in a fire.

Fix: Ic will notify its owners and replace the burner tubes free of charge. The recall began on april 20, 2005. Owners may contact international at 260-461-1924.

Problem: Certain ic ce 2005 school buses manufactured between april 27 and october 13, 2004. The locknut that secures the hydraulic brake pivot bolt may not be torqued properly.

Risk: The brake pedal may separate from the pivot bracket. This could prevent brake application.

Fix: Ic corporation will notify its customers and will inspect the locknut, replace if necessary and torque properly free of charge. The recall began on april 1, 2005. Owners may contact ic at 1-800-448-7825.

Problem: Certain 1998, 2000-2005 my ce, fe, and re school buses built with one or more ce white 30-inch child restraint seats and manufactured between march 25, 1998 and august 24, 2004. The seat cushion retention may not retain the seat in all circumstances.

Risk: In the event of a sudden stop, the seat cushion may tip forward and may become unattached causing the passenger to slide off the seat and/or be trapped by the seat cushion. This action could possibly result in personal injury or death.

Fix: Ic corp will notify its customers and will repair the cushion by adding a clip to the cushion tying it to the seat frame. The recall began on october 5, 2004. Owners who take their vehicles to an authorized dealer on an agreed upon service date and do not receive the free remedy within a reasonable time should contact ic compliance department at 1-800-843-5615.

Problem: Certain my 2001-2005 amtran/ic corporation ce, fe, and re school buses equipped with sure-lok wheelchair tie-down securement assemblies p/n 8625-13. The sprocket teeth of the retractor assembly may be out of alignment causing the load pawl not to fully seat in the sprocket teeth.

Risk: In the event of a vehicle crash, the wheelchair may not be adequately secured possibly resulting in injuries.

Fix: Sure-lok will notify ic's customers and repair the buses on ic's behalf at no cost to the customer. The recall began august 16, 2004. Owners who take their vehicles to an authorized dealer on an agreed upon service date and do not receive the free remedy within a reasonable time should contact sure-lok at 1-908-231-1804.

Problem: On certain school buses built with vandale lock systems, the system does not provide an audio sound to warn the driver that the emergency door is locked while the vehicle is in operation.

Risk: If the emergency door is locked and the bus is involved in a crash or emergency situation, bus occupants may not be able to escape from the bus in a timely manner or even at all. This could possibly result in serious injury to the occupants.

Fix: Ic will notify its customers and will repair the alarm by adding a wire to the current system free of charge. The recall began on august 23, 2004. Owners should contact ic at 1-800-843-5615.

Problem: Ce model school buses which fail to comply to federal motor vehicle safety standard no. 221, school bus body joint strength. The roof top sheet may be improperly located, reducing the material edge distance at the rivet line.

Risk: In the event of a vehicle crash, the joint strenght could fail possibily resulting in injuries to the vehicle occupants.

Fix: Ic will notify its customers and will provide inspection and repair instruction. The recall began on january 25, 2005. Owners who take their vehicles to an authorized dealer on an agreed upon service date and do not receive the free remedy within a reasonable time should contact ic customer service at (we do not yet have a telephone number for this campaign.)