2010 Thomas Built Buses SAF-T-Liner C2 Problems, Complaints & Recalls
- Compared with other SAF-T-Liner C2 years
- Not enough data 6th of 33 for complaints
- Safety recalls
- 22 recalls: check your VIN
- NHTSA crash rating
- Not rated
Owners have filed 1 complaint with NHTSA about the 2010 Thomas Built Buses SAF-T-Liner C2. That ranks 6th out of 33 SAF-T-Liner C2 model years for complaints. The most reported problem area is parking brake (1 complaints, 100%), typically at around 25,716 miles. There are 22 safety recalls covering this model year. NHTSA has opened 6 defect investigations involving it.
- 1owner complaints
- 22safety recalls
- 6NHTSA investigations
- 0complaints mentioning a crash
Complaints are unverified owner reports and are not adjusted for sales volume.
Most common 2010 Thomas Built Buses SAF-T-Liner C2 problems
Complaints grouped by the part of the car owners reported, with the median mileage when the problem happened.
| Problem area | Complaints | Share | Median miles | Owners mention most | Typical repair cost |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Parking Brake | 1 | 100% | 25,716 | — | — |
One complaint can list several problem areas, so shares can add up to more than 100%.
2010 Thomas Built Buses SAF-T-Liner C2 recalls (22)
Tap a recall to see the problem, the risk and the fix.
Service brakes, air:disc
Problem: Daimler Trucks North America LLC (DTNA) is recalling certain 2010-2020 Thomas Built Buses Saf-T-Liner C2, 2016-2019 HDX, and 2017-2019 EFX school buses equipped with Bendix Air Disc Brakes. The driver side rear brakes may drag.
Risk: The dragging brakes may lead to high temperatures at the wheel end, increasing the risk of smoke and fire, possibly resulting in the bus having to be evacuated, which can increase the risk of injury.
Fix: DTNA will notify owners, and dealers will install a new caliper with an updated clearance adjustment mechanism, free of charge. The recall began August 9, 2019. Owners may contact DTNA customer service at 1-800-547-0712. DTNA's number for this recall is FL-818.
Equipment
Problem: Daimler Trucks North America LLC (DTNA) is recalling certain 2002-2017 Thomas Built Buses Saf-T-Liner C2, Saf-T-Liner HDX, FS65, and Minotour school buses, equipped with Kidde Plastic-Handle or Push Button 'Pindicator' Fire Extinguishers. These extinguishers may become clogged, preventing the extinguisher from discharging as expected or requiring excessive force to activate the extinguisher. Additionally, in certain models, the nozzle may detach from the valve assembly with enough force that it could cause injury and also render the product inoperable. For a full list of the affected fire extinguisher models visit: https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2017/RMISC-17E062-5427.pdf
Risk: In the event of a fire, if the fire extinguisher does not function properly, it can increase the risk of injury.
Fix: DTNA will notify owners instructing them to contact Kidde for a replacement fire extinguisher, free of charge. The recall is expected to begin March 30, 2018. Owners may contact DTNA customer service at 1-800-547-0712 or Kidde customer service at 1-855-262-3540 or online at www.kidde.com and click on "Product Safety Recall" for more information. DTNA's number for this recall is FL-759.
Equipment
Problem: Daimler Trucks North America LLC (DTNA) is recalling certain 2005-2018 Thomas Built Buses Saf-T-Liner C2 school buses. In the event of a crash, the wheelchair pocket track anchorage may not adequately secure a the wheelchair.
Risk: In the event of a crash, an unsecured wheelchair may increase the risk of injury.
Fix: DTNA will notify owners, and dealers will add additional fasteners to the wheelchair pocket track to reinforce the anchorage, free of charge. An interim notice was sent to owners on September 13, 2017. The recall began on December 20, 2017. Owners may contact DTNA customer service at 1-800-745-8000. DTNA's number for this recall is FL-743.
Equipment
Problem: Daimler Trucks North America LLC (DTNA) is recalling certain 2005-2018 Thomas Built Buses Saf-T-Liner C2 transit buses. In the event of a crash, the wheelchair pocket track anchorage may not adequately secure a the wheelchair.
Risk: In the event of a crash, an unsecured wheelchair may increase the risk of injury.
Fix: DTNA will notify owners, and dealers will add additional fasteners to the wheelchair pocket track to reinforce the anchorage, free of charge. An interim letter was mailed on September 13, 2017. The recall began on December 20, 2017. Owners may contact DTNA customer service at 1-800-745-8000. DTNA's number for this recall is FL-743.
Equipment adaptive/mobility
Problem: Daimler Trucks North America LLC (DTNA) is recalling certain model year 2006-2015 Thomas Built Buses FS-65, Saf-T-Liner C2, Saf-T-Liner EF, Saf-T-Liner EFX, Saf-T-Liner HDX, and Minotour DRW school buses manufactured January 3, 2006, to August 1, 2014, and equipped with certain Ricon model S2005, S2010, S5005, S5010, S5505, S5510 wheelchair lifts. The affected lifts are equipped with folding link arms that may have pivot holes that are too big, allowing the bearings to move out of position.
Risk: If the bearings move out of position, the stowed platform may have excessive movement resulting in failure of the platform mounting. This failure could cause the wheel chair lift platform to fall out of the vehicle when the doors are opened, increasing the risk of injury for the lift operator.
Fix: DTNA will notify owners, and dealers will inspect the link arms for damage or for displaced bearings. The platform will be inspected for cracks. Any damaged parts will be replaced, free of charge. The recall began onNovember 2, 2015. Owners may contact DTNA customer service at 1-800-745-8000. DTNA's number for this recall is FL-686.
Structure:body:door
Problem: Daimler Trucks North America LLC (DTNA) is recalling certain model year 2002-2013 Thomas Built Buses Saf-T-Liner ER, 2001-2005 Saf-T-Liner Conventional, 2002-2013 Saf-T-Liner MVP-EF, 2013 Saf-T-Liner EFX, 2001-2008 Saf-T-Liner FS65, 2005-2013 Saf-T-Liner C2, 2003-2013 Saf-T-Liner HDX, 2002-2003 Saf-T-Liner MVP-ER, 2002 Vista, and 2002-2003 TL-960 school buses manufactured from February 5, 2001, through May 29, 2012. In the affected vehicles, the stem that connects the outside emergency door handle to the emergency door opening mechanism may corrode.
Risk: If the stem corrodes, the door handle could detach from the emergency door opening mechanism, delaying the opening of the door and the evacuation of the bus. In the event of an emergency, this may increase the risk of injury to the bus occupants.
Fix: DTNA will notify owners, and dealers will either replace the stems or protect them against corrosion, free of charge. Daimler issued an interim notification to owners on August 25, 2015. The recall began on December 24, 2015. Owners may contact DTNA customer service at 1-800-745-8000. DTNA's number for this recall is FL-685.
Structure:body:door
Problem: Daimler Trucks North America LLC (DTNA) is recalling certain model year 2002-2004 Thomas Built Buses Saf-T-Liner ER, 2001-2005 Saf-T-Liner Conventional, 2002-2013 Saf-T-Liner MVP-EF, 2013 Saf-T-Liner EFX, 2001-2008 Saf-T-Liner FS65, 2005-2013 Saf-T-Liner C2, 2003-2013 Saf-T-Liner HDX, 2002-2003 Saf-T-Liner MVP-ER, 2002 Vista, and 2002-2003 TL-960 non-school buses. In the affected vehicles, the stem that connects the outside emergency door handle to the emergency door opening mechanism may corrode.
Risk: If the stem corrodes, the door handle could detach from the emergency door opening mechanism, delaying the opening of the door and the evacuation of the bus. In the event of an emergency, this may increase the risk of injury to the bus occupants.
Fix: DTNA will notify owners, and dealers will either replace the stems or protect them against corrosion, free of charge. An interim notice was mailed to owners on August 28, 2015. The recall began on December 24, 2015. Owners may contact DTNA customer service at 1-800-745-8000. DTNA's number for this recall is FL-685.
Structure:body:roof and pillars
Problem: Daimler trucks north america (dtna) is recalling certain model year 2010 through 2013 thomas built saf-t-liner ef, saf-t-liner hdx, saf-t-liner c2, and minotour non school buses manufactured from april 5, 2011, through april 23, 2012, equipped with specialty manufacturing inc. (smi) prolo roof hatches. Increased friction between the rear plate assemblies, p/no. 009327, and the nylon rear pop-up support, p/no. 008956, may result in an opening force of the prolo roof hatches that exceeds federal standard requirements. Thus, these hatches fail to conform to the requirements of federal motor vehicle safety standard no. 217, "bus emergency exits and window retention and release."
Risk: In the event of an emergency, egress of the bus may be hindered possibly resulting in injury to the vehicle occupants.
Fix: Thomas built buses will notify owners. Smi will provide service kits along with repair instructions to dealers and owners, free of charge. The safety recall began on august 22, 2012. Owners may contact thomas built buses at 1-336-889-4871 or smi at 1-800-951-7867.
Equipment adaptive/mobility
Problem: Daimler trucks north america (dtna) is recalling certain model year 2007 through 2011 saf-t-liner ef, minotour, saf-t-liner c2, and saf-t-liner hdx school buses equipped with braun century-2 and vista-2 wheelchair lifts. Over time, and with frequent use, the roll stop latches on the outer barrier may become bent or misaligned.
Risk: A wheelchair occupant may defeat or ride over the insufficiently latched roll stop. If this occurs when the lift platform is in an elevated position, the wheelchairâs occupant could fall and sustain injury.
Fix: Dtna will notify owners, and the repairs will be performed by authorized braun dealers free of charge. The safety recall began on june 28, 2012. Owners may contact dtna at 1-800-547-0712.
Equipment adaptive/mobility
Problem: Daimler trucks north america (dtna) is recalling certain model year 2007 through 2011 saf-t-liner ef, minotour, saf-t-liner c2, saf-t-liner hdx transit buses equipped with braun century-2 and vista-2 wheelchair lifts. Over time, and with frequent use, the roll stop latches on the outer barrier may become bent or misaligned.
Risk: A wheelchair occupant may defeat or ride over the insufficiently latched roll stop. If this occurs when the lift platform is in an elevated position, the wheelchairâs occupant could fall and sustain injury.
Fix: Dtna will notify owners, and the repairs will be performed by authorized braun dealers, free of charge. The safety recall began on june 28, 2012. Owners may contact dtna at 1-800-547-0712.
Equipment:appliance:air conditioner
Problem: Daimler trucks (dtna) is recalling certain model year 2006 through 2011 saf-t-liner c2, saf-t-liner hdx, mvp-ef, fs-65, and minotor school buses manufactured from january 2, 2006, through january 31, 2011, equipped with carrier genv em-1 evaporator units. Due to time, temperature, and/or vibration, the fuse may loosen in the fuse holder resulting in high resistance and arcing.
Risk: If sufficient arcing occurs, the fuse holder may melt, and a vehicle fire may occur.
Fix: Dtna will notify owners and provide information on how to obtain the retrofit kit from carrier along with repair instructions. This service will be performed free of charge. The safety recall began on may 20, 2011. (see carrier's recall campaign 11e-003.) owners may contact carrier at 1-800-793-4741 or dtna at 1-800-547-0712.
Seats
Problem: Daimler trucks is recalling certain thomas built mvp-ef, hdx, and saf-t-liner c2 school buses manufactured from march 17, 2009, through december 7, 2009, equipped with stabilus bloc-o-lift, p/n 5561ed, driver seats. The weld which holds the mounting tab to the shock body was improperly welded and can break.
Risk: The seat could drop unexpectedly without prior warning and could cause momentary loss of steering control, possibly resulting in a crash.
Fix: Daimler trucks will notify owners and repairs will be performed by authorized thomas built buses service facilities free of charge. The safety recall began on november 24, 2010. Owners may contact daimler trucks at 1-800-547-0712.
Engine and engine cooling
Problem: Daimler trucks is recalling certain model year 2008 through 2011 saf-t-liner c2 and saf-t-liner hdx school buses manufactured from october 5, 2006 through may 24, 2010, equipped with epa 2007 mbe 900 detroit diesel engines. Engine software may not react properly to certain aftermarket treatment device fault codes. The software may unnecessarily shutdown a vehicle or may fail to shutdown a vehicle with an aftermarket device over-temp fault.
Risk: Unexpected shutdown of a vehicle may increase the risk of a crash. Overheating of the aftertreatment device without engine shutdown may result in a fire.
Fix: Daimler trucks will notify owners and repairs will be performed by detroit diesel free of charge. The safety recall began on december 30, 2010. Owners may contact daimler trucks at 1-800-547-0712.
Engine and engine cooling
Problem: Daimler trucks is recalling certain model year 2007 through 2011 fccc b2 106 ch and thomas built saf-t-liner c2 and hdx school buses manufactured from september 5, 2006 through june 30, 2010, equipped with specific mbe900 epa04 and epa07 model engines. The intake air grid heater may short circuit and fail due to excessive internal temperatures.
Risk: A short circuited grid heater could result in a vehicle fire and injury to vehicle occupants.
Fix: Daimler trucks will notify owners and dealers will repair the buses free of charge. Repairs will be performed by detroit diesel corporation authorized repair facilities. The safety recall is expected to begin on or about july 29, 2011. Owners may contact daimler trucks toll-free at 1-800-547-0712.
Steering:column
Problem: Daimler trucks (dtna) is recalling certain model year 2010 saf-t-liner c2 school buses manufactured from october 23, 2008 through april 20, 2009 equipped with trw igen3 intermediate steering columns. The weld around the igen3 steering shaft tube that secures the spline tube to the intermediate tube may be mislocated (i.e., not fully over the seam created when the tubes are pressed together.)
Risk: Mislocated welds may result in torsional and axial strength falling below acceptable levels. This condition could result in separation of the steering column, loss of steering control and a vehicle crash without warning.
Fix: Dtna will notify owners and the buses will be repaired free of charge. The safety recall began on december 23, 2010. Owners may contact dtna at 1-800-547-0712.
Exterior lighting:brake lights:switch
Problem: Dtna is recalling certain model year 2005 through 2011 thomas built saf-t-liner c2 school buses manufactured beginning january 19, 2005 through april 16, 2010. The stop lamps may be intermittent during light brake applications.
Risk: The stop lamps may not properly indicate that the service brakes are applied which may lead to a crash without warning.
Fix: Dtna will notify owners and repairs will be performed by dtna dealerships free of charge. The safety recall began on may 27, 2011. Owners may contact dtna at 1-800-547-0712.
Structure:body:door
Problem: Dtna has notified nhtsa about a defect in certain model year 2008 through 2011 thomas built saf-t-liner c2 school buses manufactured from may 10, 2007, through january 8, 2010. The reed switch used to detect the position of the air operated front entrance door may malfunction causing warning lights and the crossing arm to operate improperly during student loading and unloading.
Risk: Malfunctioning warning lights during the loading and unloading process could put the students at risk of injury.
Fix: Dtna will notify owners and the repairs will be performed by thomas built buses dealerships free of charge. The safety recall is expected to begin on or about may 10, 2010. Owners may contact thomas built at 1-336-889-4871.
Suspension:rear
Problem: Daimler trucks is recalling certain model year 2008 through 2011 thomas built saf-t-liner c2 school buses and fccc b2 chassis manufactured from june 1, 2007 through september 28, 2009. Fasteners used to connect the rear suspension spring to the suspension hanger bracket may not have been torqued to specification. Under torqued fasteners may become loose and potentially fall out.
Risk: Loose or missing fasteners may allow the rear suspension to become misaligned, increasing the risk of a crash.
Fix: Dealers will inspect and adjust the fasteners as required. Damaged fasteners will be replaced. Repairs will be made free of charge. The safety recall is expected to begin during february 2010. Owners may contact daimler trucks toll-free at 1-800-547-0712.
Service brakes, hydraulic
Problem: Daimler trucks is recalling certain model year 2008 through 2010 thomas built saf-t-liner c2 school buses and fccc b2 chassis manufactured from october 1, 2007 through august 10, 2009, equipped with cummins isb cm2150 j1939/1587 engine control unit, bosch hydraulic pin-slide front brakes, and webasto 17k btu coolant heater. The front right hand crossover brake line may have been secured using shorter offset than specified clamps potentially allowing the brake line to rub on the surrounding components. This may lead to a brake fluid leak.
Risk: Continued contact between the brake line and the surrounding components may lead to a loss of brake fluid and reduce braking performance potentially resulting in a vehicle crash.
Fix: Daimler trucks will notify owners. Dealers will inspect the units and clamps with shorter offset than specified will be replaced with longer offset clamps. Any brake lines found to be damaged will be replaced. Repairs will be done free of charge. The safety recall began on april 23, 2010. Owners may contact daimler trucks toll-free at 1-800-547-0712.
Service brakes, hydraulic:pedals and linkages
Problem: Daimler trucks is recalling certain model year 2006 through 2011 thomas built saf-t-liner c2 school buses built on fccc b2 chassis manufactured from october 15, 2004 through november 25, 2009, equipped with kongsberg automotive adjustable brake pedals. The adjustable brake pedal arm may loosen allowing the arm to rotate around its shaft and swing in front of the accelerator pedal, reducing braking function.
Risk: A loose brake pedal increases the risk of a crash.
Fix: Daimler trucks will notify owners and dealers will repair the vehicles free of charge. The safety recall began on december 22, 2009. Owners may contact daimler trucks warranty claims department at 1-800-547-0712.
Structure:body:door
Problem: Daimler trucks is recalling certain model year 2008 through 2010 school and non-school buses manufactured from may 10, 2007 through august 31, 2009, equipped with ag2 entrance doors. The entrance door glass may be inadequately bonded to the door frame and may separate from the vehicle.
Risk: Separation of the door glass while the vehicle is in operation could create a road hazard, possibly resulting in a vehicle crash.
Fix: Daimler trucks will notify owners and the buses will be repaired free of charge. The safety recall began on april 23, 2010. Owners may contact thomas built at 1-336-889-4871.
Structure:body:door:hinge and attachments
Problem: Daimler trucks is recalling 22,206 thomas built my 2005 through 2010 school buses manufactured from october 2004 through november 24, 2008. The lower end of the front entrance door aft assist handrail may be located too close to the step.
Risk: It may be possible for items such as drawstrings and straps to become caught on the handrails potentially leading to injury or death.
Fix: Daimler trucks will notify owners and repairs will be performed by thomas built buses dealerships and direct warranty customer free of charge. The recall is expected to begin on or about march 6, 2009. Owners may contact daimler trucks toll-free at 1-800-547-0712.
To see whether a specific car still has an open recall, enter its VIN on NHTSA's official recall lookup. You can also decode a VIN here.
NHTSA defect investigations
- Rear Leaf Spring Fractures (PE19007) — opened Jun 18, 2019, closed Oct 17, 2023.
- Stop Lamps Intermittent (PE10007) — opened Feb 3, 2010, closed May 23, 2010, led to recall 10V177000.
- Inoperative 8-Way Warning Lamps (PE10003) — opened Jan 20, 2010, closed Apr 5, 2010, led to recall 10V100000.
- Rear spring trailing arm bolt loose (PE09050) — opened Oct 7, 2009, closed Jan 7, 2010, led to recall 09V458000.
- Door glass detachment (PE09027) — opened May 21, 2009, closed Sep 24, 2009, led to recall 09V344000.
- Improper handrail installation (PE08068) — opened Dec 3, 2008, closed Jan 15, 2009, led to recall 09V010000.
Recent owner reports
Short excerpts of the latest complaints filed with NHTSA, with personal details removed. Full reports can be searched on NHTSA.gov.
Emergency brake : when setting brake it takes 3 to 4 times for brake to set. Emergency brake will pop out on it's own after setting. *tr
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Frequently asked questions
What are the most common problems with the 2010 Thomas Built Buses SAF-T-Liner C2?
Owners most often report parking brake problems. The top one, parking brake, accounts for 1 complaint.
Was there a recall on the 2010 Thomas Built Buses SAF-T-Liner C2?
Yes, 22 safety recalls. Enter your VIN at NHTSA.gov to check whether the repairs were done on your car.
Was the 2010 Thomas Built Buses SAF-T-Liner C2 a good year?
Complaint data can't fully answer that, because counts aren't adjusted for sales. Compared with other SAF-T-Liner C2 model years, the 2010 has too little data to compare. Always get a pre-purchase inspection and check the VIN for open recalls.